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Thursday, December 07, 2006

The Fall

Were we fallen before the tree? Did we have it in us to disobey before our first disobedience?

6 Comments:

Blogger Matthew Snyder said...

Are you asking if we have a free will?

12:34 PM  
Blogger mick_brigham said...

lol, no. oh dear god, no.

4:08 PM  
Blogger Mike Beardslee said...

Oh..you guys..I roll with laughter. In fact my thought escapes me - although I am sure that it was a beautiful manifestation of the freedom of the will and the sanctification of the mind, or a bunch of smoke blowing.

Seriously though, I do indeed have an initial reaction to your question, and the answer is classical. But I will wait for the moment to post; my mind is super foggy and I don't want to put forth the energy to think. I'll get back to you.

8:52 PM  
Blogger Matthew Snyder said...

Mick, I just laughed, a lot, at your response. That is hilarious!

I do think we had it in us to disobey before the fall though. If we didn't, then how the heck did we even disobey in the first place? Apparently the ability for us to disobey was there or else it wouldn't have happened. And idiots who say that it was God's will for us to disobey need to be shot. I don't believe that God created us with the intention of us to disobey him so he could kill people or anything. I think he created us with an innocence, however, an innocence that was taken advantage of.

I'm rambling. A lot. Sorry.

2:17 PM  
Blogger Mike Beardslee said...

Mr. Snyder I have no ore to say at the time. Well put.

Im tired, and tired of papers.
-Mike-

2:39 AM  
Blogger Matthew Snyder said...

I'm sorry I brought it up. I hate the question. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate the stupidity which that whole topic brings out in people. I can't stand it that! UGH! Damn it! I hate that crap. Why do people have to be such pains in the butthole over that whole issue?!

And I'm not talking about you guys at all. Seriously. I just hate the fact that we can discuss it without there being issues.

My brain is cooked. I'm going to go burn something.

8:27 PM  

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